no front loading? (BD-Design)

by anubisgrau, Thursday, March 18, 2010, 00:34 (2863 days ago)

i keep on forget to ask you for your opinion on front loaded (folded) bass horns - apart from size, is there anything else that prevent you from making one?

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no front loading?

by Bert @, Thursday, March 18, 2010, 20:19 (2862 days ago) @ anubisgrau

Hi Gordan,

i keep on forget to ask you for your opinion on front loaded (folded) bass horns - apart from size, is there anything else that prevent you from making one?

If size would not be an issue then the only thing left to decide against it is the clearly audible time delay. Not pretty if you are used to listen to better timed speakers... ;-)

The Oris Ultra or Oris Swing are a good compromise using some benifits of a front loaded horn without the aNoying problems. On top of that the bass is going a whole lot deeper for the same size...

A good build horn using a good ultra low Q driver with stiff memmbrane (not just a driver) will be unbeatable in the bass. Very articulated, dynamical and "light" but the integration problems usually makes the total concept worse...

Bert

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no front loading?

by Don Reid, Rural Northwest Georgia, USA, Friday, April 02, 2010, 20:58 (2847 days ago) @ Bert
edited by Don Reid, Friday, April 02, 2010, 21:17

I follow a different path. with my Oris 150 horns and Fostex t900a bullet tweeters I use a Bill Fitzmaurice designed subwoofer/woofer which is his HT Tuba sub. The 18 cu. Ft. (507.9 liter) bass enclosures are a front loaded folded corner horns with 11.4 ft. (3.47 meters) of horn length folded inside the box. A 15" anodized aluminum cone, 130 oz. magnet woofer, the Dayton RSS390HF-4 15" Reference HF Subwoofer 4 Ohm drives the corner horns. The corner horns sit in a 18mm teak veneered sand boxes containing 100 lb. (45.45 kG) of fine white sand. Another 50 lb. (22.68 kG) of sand is contained in the burgundy bags atop the woofer horns. The truncated pyramid Oris/Fostex horn stands contain 100 lb. (45.45 kG) of sand and a proprietary resonance damping mechanism. The 1 and 1/4 " (3.18 cm) thick granite slabs under horn stands are laminated to 1/8" thick neoprene rubber sheets. The room's walls have been reinforced to make them more corner horn friendly.

I use the DEQX HDP-3 preamp/digital sound processor for crossover, room correction, phase correction and time correction to the point where the signals from the corner horns and Oris/Fostex horns as though the distance to the acoustic centers of all three drivers were within 3 mm, less than 1/8" of each other.

In room frequency response at my sitting position is 19Hz to 20 kHz plus or minus less than 4dB. The sound is wonderfully transparent, dynamic, lightining fast and seamless. Imaging is remarkably good though not equal to good flat panel full range electrostatics.

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